Craigslist

What is Craigslist?

For those of you who find posting on Craigslist interesting, important or profitable, I have created this website to keep everyone informed about all the things that happen behind the scenes at Craigslist that they don’t want you to know about. Yes, All the Dirty Little Secrets of Craigslist. For those of you who may not know, let’s start off with what is Craigslist?

Craigslist is an online, (so called) free internet advertising site ( or online free classifieds, if you will ) that was started a little over a decade ago by a geeky nerd who couldn’t get a date and hung around his mother’s house too much. The site itself (Craigslist) languished for a few years and really went no where until a few years ago some savvy investors decided to plug some money into it. Some people actually thought it had potential. It is actually a reasonably good idea, unfortunately it is poorly run and managed. So anyway, like I was saying a few investors plugged some money into the Craigslist website and through some clever marketing they made Craigslist more popular.

The entire marketing scheme behind Craigslist dates back to the old hippie days of the 1960′s. They even utilize the old PEACE symbol as their logo. Craigslist likes to propagate this idea that they are here for the people and by the people. That’s where the whole community thing comes from. The whole thing about Craigslist just being there for the people and by the people is a total load anyway. Craigslist is there to make money for the corporate managers. The staff at Craigslist likes to push the community idea because it makes their users do the work of the staffers for free. Free labor, you gotta love it! You’ll learn more about that later.

Yes, they advertise Craigslist, and the whole buzz around Craigslist, is that it’s free, but it actually isn’t, not completely. For some types of ads you have to pay. So this whole free notion is more or less a marketing ploy. Even though the company bears the name of Craig, Craig Newmark has taken a lesser role in the company over the years. Maybe top management thinks geeks just aren’t good at marketing.

So you go on Craigslist and post your products or services for sale, you find someone interested in what you have to offer and everyone ends up happy right? Well, maybe in theory but not in practice. There are so many things wrong with Craigslist itself and the entire concept, that it will take many posts to dissect the problems and elucidate on them properly. I am writing this blog to enlighten people about the problems and dangers of Craigslist so they can better understand and work with it as opposed to many people who are being hurt by it. You are welcome to post your comments in response to any of my postings, just keep it clean. Unlike Craigslist, I promise I will post each and every comment you make.

94 Responses to Craigslist

  1. I have been getting horrible threats and calling me all sorts of names, I report them and they still continue to email me after doing so. I dont get why I am always getting flagged but people who put nude picture up there never get flagged and if you try there adds up there for weeks. Why is that? This site seems to me out against a lot of people but others they can put what they want and they never get flagged at all.

    • There are many reasons that this could be happening to you. Unfortunately I cannot ask you and get answers from you here since it would fill up the entire page and leave no room for other comments. Go to our forum where we can dedicate as much time and space as needed and you can get helpful answers. Go to http://www.beatcraigslist.com/forum and post your question. I’ll give you a more detailed answer there.

      • Mr. Craigsliststaff your responses here I find absolutely hilarious. I have been to your so-called “help forums” and posted my problem only to find out the same people who are screwing things up for the rest of us are the only ones that lot lizard around that forum and offer advice. I posted a simple ad about a vehicle I had. It is not a parts vehicle but does need a repair to be driven. In the very first line of the ad it states this. Some people call that misleading. How if it’s the first thing stated. Second problem is that a made a couple comments people didn’t seem to like very well such as, (Keep in mind this is the first line) “The transfer case is bad, due to some geniuses thinking they are going to come buy it and drive it home let me say it again THE TRANSFER CASE IS BAD!” Lastly it says at the bottom “the price is non negotiable.” “If you are thinking of offering less then please move on to the next listing” This according to your forum posters makes me an A-Hole. First of all there is a reason behind the posting and slight shock talk. It is to assure that people who actually know what they are looking at are the only ones who contact me. Anyone who is offended by that is the same idiots I am trying to avoid having answer my ad. Second I don’t see how this is a popularity contest. I’ve said nothing offensive at all to the normal reader. As far as your forum lol, I went there, disagreed that my post was flag worthy and guess what? Now ALL my posts get flagged!!! Very well run show I have to say. Keep up the good work and I’m sure you’ll be around the next decade. I may just start one of my own. Couldnt do any worse I’m sure. Please stop feeding these people a ine though. There is no help from CL staff as I have sent 23 emails with absolutely no personal response. ALL automated.425943634, 4391695954, 4390151231, 4391697925, 4395509294, 4395993432, 4396026245, 4396126790, 4396142263, 4396135361, 4396842923, 4396846465, 4396839990, 4396849703, 4396931055, 4396927048, 4397010046, 4397118460, 4397117176, 4405401581, 4397120940, 4397119576, 4397115897, 4379738575, 4390155114 Those are all the same post reworded several different times to no avail.

      • There seems to be some MAJOR confusion going on here, and I’m glad that you brought it up so I can clarify it. First of all I (and my assistants) are NOT Craigslist. We are not associated with Craigslist and we have nothing do do with Craigslist. We are here as an aid to the people trying to post on Craigslist. We are here to help you survive Craigslist. The Forums that WE have are NOT the same forums as the ones on Craigslist. I can assure you that on our forums there are no trolls and no insulting users. Any such persons would quickly be booted off the forum. You have been using the Craigslist forum, and sending Emails to Craigslist, NOT ME. If you had gone to our forum, you would find that it is a friendly environment with no negative talk. I simply will not allow that. To use our forum, use the link on the right hand corner of this blog in the “Blog roll” or go to http://www.beatcraigslist.com/forum. That is where you can post any questions or problems that you have and it will be answered in a nice, and honest manner. All the posts that you say you posted, were on the Craigslist forum, not mine. I am the administrator and I can tell you that no such posts have been posted OR deleted. I hope that clarifies it for you and anyone else that is confusing US with Craigslist. You can feel free to post on our forum and you will not be bashed.

  2. Camaro Man says:

    First, thanks for such a wonderfully informative blog. After extensive reading here, I can’t find any related specifically to my problem.

    (1) I used a simple title: gift shop for 4 sale
    (2) I outlined the kind of gift shop, and how long it’s been around, which is 12 years.
    (3) I let people know why I’m selling it. Failing back.
    (4) I upload one aerial shot of the store showing it on a lake.
    (5) I tell people to Google my store to learn more. I only started asking people to Google it in hopes that less information would increase the odds of my ad actually staying up of which work for almost 24 hours.
    (6) I allowed my phone number to be publically shown.
    (7) I posted the ad and hoped for the best

    One of two things always happens.

    (1) CL deletes it within five minutes claiming the post is in violation of CL’s Terms of Service, but does not tell me how.

    (2) It stays up for a few hours, even a full day or so and then CL’s deletes it without any rhyme or reason.

    I made absolutely sure that there were no keywords or phrases that might cause my ad to get flagged like, knives, cutlery, military, weapons, guns, etc. as my store sells all of the above except for guns.

    I’ve never used Craig’s List other than to sell a dishwasher and an arcade machine, of which were posted years apart. It worked like a charm!

    Here’s the clincher, often CL would tell me that I cannot post an ad for at least forty eight hours, when in fact I had not posted an ad in nearly five days, only to be told yet again that I still had to wait another forty eight hours. Rather than forty eight hours, I waited over seventy two hours this time around only to be told that I need to wait another forty eight hours! At this point I’m getting livid as I’m running out of time to sell my gift shop as I only have about 15 days left.

    I ran this same ad late last year, using the same wording and pics and it stayed up for a full forty five days, however when I tried to repost it using a newly written ad, it’s as though I (or my computer and or store address and phone number) has been banned from ever using CL again. As a professional webmaster of nearly 20 years, I’ve tried every trick in the book to keep my ad from being automatically rejected as there is a lot of money here at stake. I tried Proxy service, new email address, new phone number, and or new account, various combinations of all of the above, including changing the information in my ad completely, but I have yet to see if changing the ID of my computer will work, IE: it’s assigned name I gave it would I first set up the computer.

    So I ask you, what in the dickens is going on?@#$%

    Free or not, if CL is going to allow us to use their service which can greatly effect the financial side of the end user for the worst, doesn’t CL have a moral, and or legal obligation to the end user to provide a reliable platform that is fair to all, a platform that does not falsely lead the consumer into thinking that they have a viable way to post critically import items for sale, only to learn weeks later that their ad was falsely deleted without notifying the end user via the same email address that was used to set up their CL account?

    This blunder with CL’s is costing me *dearly as I have ALWAYS had wonderful luck using their service in the past, that is, until now. Have I been back flagged somehow? and if so, why would CL do such a thing? Though I don’t fly, it’s as though I have been put on some kind of, “Do Not Fly List” if you will with CL. Doe’s CL really have that kind of processing power to keep tabs on me? More likely with recent news about Facebook and the NSA, that CL has also been infiltrated by the NSA, thus my inability to mask who I am so I can once again use CL?

    Thanks in advance for your tireless response as it should prove to be quite interesting.

    Cheers!

    James

    • All I can think of is that your IP is on a banned list. Maybe someone else used your IP at some point for spamming. Maybe you posted in the wrong section and someone got pissed off. Its really hard to say in situations like this. Its like finding a needle in a haystack. Maybe a competitor is flagging you because they may not understand exactly what you are selling and they think it impacts them. Some people may think CL is not for Real Estate Transactions. Very hard to answer fully.

  3. Angelo R says:

    Every ad I post gets auto-flagged. It doesn’t even make it to the site live it gets auto-flagged right away. What is the reason for this?

    • That is hard to answer. There are hundreds of reasons why this could happen. Go to my website and read through it. See if you find any clues that tell you what you are doing and how to change it.

  4. Is craigslist taking any update? Last 4 days i tried to post on craigslist job section(admin office) but all my ad get ghosting !Even when i renew my ad it get flagged !!!!! i never seen before this problem.i change my ip,phone number,email, and 1 post in 48 hours……nothing works at all !

    • This is probably a problem that is related to your account. Even if you change IP and so forth, your computer’s MAC address is visible to CL and that is enough right there.

  5. Anyone who spent time on the CL discussion forums will tell you that the site is run by lunatics. That’s why it doesn’t work. They have put power-hungry nut-jobs in charge of moderation. And the good posts get flagged, while the boards get flooded with spam and scams.

  6. e4od says:

    Craigslist is no difference than Google, Microsoft, and others as they have aligned themselves with the government agents who keep CL competition in the gutter. Local Drug & Task Forces use CL to do stings by offering profession “LADY” services if you know what I mean and asking for people to do things that are illegal. These ads are only taken down not because of flagging but, only I an others expose the truth that CL allows the cops to use there service in violation of there TOU to “SET PEOPLE UP”.

    I have a device that will allow a person to take their house off grid at the push of a button. Telephone & Internet Connections are “disconnected”. No Spying why disconnected. My ad lasts 2 minutes and is flagged.

    We Need a venue to sell without Government Intervention. Craigslist more than sucks.

    • The problem is that once these organizations become as big as the ones you mentioned, they decide to work with the government. They do this for one of two reasons, and I don’t know which one applies to each of these companies that you mentioned. Either they are Liberals and the align themselves with the current government so they see no problem in working with the government against the people that use their services. The other choice is that they are afraid of government repercussions if they don’t go along with the government. Government now is a bully compared to what it used to be, so many people and companies are afraid of it. Sounds kinda like the old USSR doesn’t it? ;)

      • Ali Arshad says:

        I’m using Craigslist to promote my moving service, but for the last 10 days my ads are not coming live in services section. Please Help me what can i do..I post ads but every time Craigslist flag my ad.

      • We have an entire section on our website to help you out. You can download the tutorial videos for free or join the members section to get them faster.

  7. Every time I start CL, it takes me to one of my deleted posts. It says the post has been deleted. I know it has been deleted – I deleted it. It’s kind of like CL are pissed off that I got one past them, and that is their way of pouting about it. Just a little annoying.

  8. Stop FirstHouseFinancial says:

    What I don’t get is why craigslist allows companies who are quite obviously running scams to continuously post, despite the fact that those companies have been reported multiple times.

    Housing Scams for example there are two companies at least American Standard Online and First House Financial who have been posting thousands of ads all over craigslist for 6 years now at least. They consistently use the same phone numbers and have specific wording in each ad that make it easy to find their ads. They can’t possibly be unaware of it. Yet they just allow these companies to continue to post ad after ad after ad, day in and day out year after year.

    • You got that right. I stay within the rules and yet there are all types of business owners who some how are able to post 10, 20 ads right in a row which basically allows them to have their own craigslist page. what tics me is when I post an ad then some cheater does his/her grand postings and wipes me off the map. Mostly house cleaning services. Ive emailed, called and texted these cheaters with no luck in getting them to play fair.

  9. grandnegus1 says:

    Here is an example of an ad posted in multiple areas multiple times a day 7 days a week: I left out the contact number. But it seems this person doesn’t get flagged and deleted. Yet those income claims are a violation of FTC guidelines because they do not have equal sized disclaimer stating these are not the average earnings but CL does nothing about it. I have seen this ad for many months now every single day.

    ” Does your cell phone provider pays you back cash?
    You will be Promoting:

    - $39/month Mobile Service – Unlimited 4G voice/text/data – No contracts, no credit check – No monthly products to buy – No big up-front entry costs

    Training provided

    COMPENSATION :

    get $20 residual every month for every 3 people you enroll get $450 residual every month if you and your team enroll 30 people. get $1000 on top residual every month if you and your team enroll 54 people.”

    • unotaco says:

      Hmmm, by the looks of it, that one actually sounds like Solavei which is ran by T-mobile. I can only come up with that since I’ve been looking into the prepaid wireless business. I know they offer commission, but never really looked into how much. As I look now, the post was off by $5 dollars (it’s $5 for every 3 people), so it could have changed since then. The rate plan 39.99 is the same, though. I think the main thing would have been to be cautious when giving one’s information over the telephone and also making sure the person at least had a website and/or registered business name. The only reason(s) I could think of the person leaving out their website is that they don’t have one (brick and mortar) or don’t want to give it out due to spam, which I can understand that myself.

      • grandnegus1 says:

        It is Solavei. They are spamming everyone and everywhere. As far as doing wireless as a biz you will need a lock of luck. I was in that biz for a while. Very very tough. Way too many competitors now and the margins are razor thin.

      • unotaco says:

        lol @ spamming everyone and everyone…so I’ve heard! I know I was in a facebook dealer group and they started condemning people who talked about it because it was spammed throughout the post so much hahaha! Yeah, it can be tough with lots of competitors, but I live in an area where people barely know what it is haha! Their only problem would be “wanting to be” stuck with AT&T and Verizon, but people are starting to move to straightalk more now. Not many know what an MVNO is (which I use to not know as well), so I guess that can be a good thing about living in rural/small town areas. I only starting looking into the business aspect because I was looking for a cheap sell phone provider for myself (I’m cheap, lol) and it came to me that I could just become a dealer on the side to sell it to other cheap people like myself, haha. I only plan on doing it as a little side job and maybe online, since I don’t plan on trying to do brick and mortar. I also could just sell pins/sim cards to friends and family and just be fine with that. Since I plan on learning about building pcs and becoming a pc technician as well as other stuff, I thought it would just be a nice thing to add on the side. I have too many things on my mind to just want to do one thing :-D haha!

  10. grandnegus1 says:

    I know no site can be 100% but Craigslist has some major and I mean major house cleaning to be done. I know they have their own systems for flagging but the way they allow individual people to flag is very unprofessional. I think they should have individual flags run through their system and if it is ok with their own systems they should warn the flagger and only 1 flag per month per individual. If their system catches someone flagging the same ad over and over again they should have their accounts cancelled. Maybe not perfect but it might go a long way in telling these vicious punk flaggers their game is up.

    • Ken Todd says:

      Recently my ads in the service section are deleted immediately. I am not spamming, have several accounts, maybe post three ads every 2 – 3 days from three different accounts. All ads get flagged before even showing up on Clist. YET, the spammers, I am a fence contractor, those that post 5 – 10 ads “all in a row” seem to never get deleted and are there everyday. Craigslist sucks, I have given up and rely on my google ads. Too bad BACKPAGE can’t develop a following.

  11. Hi, I had 3 years selling furniture on Craglist and never had problems making ads, but they keep getting deleted. I have been changing my IP address, phone number, and e-mail address, and nothing works. Does someone know if Craigslist is capable of seeing the phone number? I always put my number in the picture not the text. Could that be the reason I am getting blocked????

  12. Kathy Vidal says:

    I was scammed by this site. $1010 was stolen thinking I was renting an apartment by a fake african american realtor in Astoria, NY who had the keys to the building and apartments in the building.He was all dressed up as a christian and gave me a buisness card and had me sign papers and gave me a reciept. I was younger and naive then and gave him all my cash on hand. I reported this to the police, but they never found him. Not to mention when looking for a job. You have non-stop texting from job offers(scammers), which is annoying. I would tell them to stop texting me.You have to be very carefull, espeacially when handling with this site. It’s on the top list full of scammers and dangerous people.This is a good thing your doing with this site letting everyone know about criagslist dirty little secrets. I wish I could had known better then what I know now!!!

    • grandnegus1 says:

      Kathy there are a lot of scum on CL. As Obi wan kenobe said: “You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.”
      and many either work at or for CL
      Anyone on here saying they have never had any problems is full of BS and I would love to stand toe to toe with them and have them tell me that to my face.

    • Sandy Rose says:

      Kathy, I’m sorry you lost so much money. You need to be cautious about any dealings with strangers. You could have googled the so-called realtors name; called their real estate office and have spoken to the owner/broker to be sure he works there. NEVER pay with CASH — first clue. I’m an older female and I’ve learned NOT to trust too many people. I’ve been using CL for many years – and have never had a problem.

  13. I have sold many things on Craigslist without any problem.

    • Yes, and so have many people. This blog is not here to discourage people from using Craigslist. This blog is here to help people prevent from getting ripped off and/or understand better how to use Craigslist. I know Craigslist reads this blog (I have seen references made to this blog on Craigslist) and my hope is that they will listen and learn from the problems people post here. They may not like change at Craigslist (as many people and organizations do not) but I think when the evidence is overwhelming with certain problems, they eventually have to address it.

      • datzme101 says:

        I have never had a problem on craigslist. In fact, the majority of my possessions are from craigslist, including my car, which cost me $1500 and has ran with no problems for 3 years now. Sure, you get the occasional spam response to your postings, but they’re clearly spam, so don’t respond. There’s no reason to ever venture into personals, unless you’re a creepy mother f***er to begin with

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    • So the new scam coming for the holidays is to offer you a loan? That’s a good one. One big mistake is that they aren’t appealing to personal greed enough. A loan at 3% you can get pretty much at any legitimate bank locally, so why would you do it with a stranger unless you have horrible credit and don’t have those options. I think they should make the interest 1%, then they would get more interest. ;)

    • db4tim says:

      REALLY why would you not go to a local lending institution

  15. Robert Stone says:

    I have written Craigs List several times without a response-I use it to post cars for sale-the problem is many people, especially dealers post the same ad
    over and over and it becomes spam, crowding out all the other ads-so, yes, I flag those ads that appear multiple times-the idea is to either renew your ad or delete it and re-post it and not leave your old one up-this is really the biggest complaint I have about Craigslist in that they do nothing about this problem

  16. sirnotion says:

    CRAIGSLIST.COM IS DEAD
    Two reasons, possibly 3, which confirm my suspicions that the site is gone straight to hell.
    First of all, a few months back, I posted an ad on CL’s NSA personals. Immediately thereafter, my spam folder got flooded w/ messages from fake profiles; these “women” were sending me obvious cookie-cutter messages along w/ photos which looked like they were taken out of a foreign porno magazine. An actual # was never provided, only a link to some bogus dating site where they’d ask me for my credit card #. The relentless spam became so annoying that I had to delete my email acct.
    Second, a day after I posted a rant on CL about the issue, my post was flagged. Rational post it was, but it was flagged anyway lol.
    Finally, I tried to post an ad on CL to try an sell something, but before I could publish it, a map popped up asking me to “click yes” if whether the location was correct, and there was no way to “click yes”, so I couldn’t complete the process of posting.
    CL, u and all ur scumbag minions can eat a #&#*@*#$.
    CRAIGSLIST IS DEAD

    • db4tim says:

      I would love to agree with you but it is not dead…it will never go away because of the money that flows in, does not mean they are good…they are very bad…however…follow the money, idiots will always pay to sell their china crap

      • grandnegus1 says:

        No its not dead unfortunately. Morons like CL shouldn’t be in business. Backpage would be the big fish in town if they had come out before CL. It just happened the way it did again unfortunately. It is run by a bunch of knuckleheads. Honest people get hassled day in and day out yet people can post all kinds of crap and vial things and get away with it. That makes no sense at all but then again what has been pot head hippie knucklehead ever makes sense anyway.

  17. Nick Cameron says:

    They have deactivated all links on the real estate side of things, although they say they have only stopped IMG, FONT, TABLE, DIV, and SPAN tags are no longer supported in this category. So tags should work but aren’t. This is a huge source of business for real estate agents, anyone have a work around?

    • Mike Walker says:

      We post in the for sale section and they have also deactivated the links there. Why would they do this? There is no one who is going to cut and paste a link. Expecially on a mobile version.

      We have moved to Backpage.com – not nearly as much traffic, but hopefully this will change. Craigslist blows on so many levels now. Like they guy above, we dont even check our emails due to all the spam. We use junk emails to post and the link will just send them to our site. No longer.

  18. cjschepers says:

    I’m a freelance writer and editor who’s never had a problem with posting my services under “writing/editing” category — until now. Suddenly my postings are flagged and deleted with no reason. I only post once every six weeks or so (so it’s not because of over posting!). You cannot reach the CL staff for clarification. Frustrating. And I made the HUGE mistake of using the community forum. Within seconds I was verbally attacked and bizarrely bashed. It was weird. I had to cancel my participation with minutes, it was that abusive and unprofessional. Every response also mentioned CL’s standard read our Terms of Use (a lengthy document from which I could not see where I’d suddenly gone wrong). I felt like CL does this as a ploy to make you just go away.

    • grandnegus1 says:

      Forget those forums. There are nasty mentally disturbed people on there, many of whom I suspect are the flaggers themselves. Oh how I would love to get my hands on one in a little MMA style. They are just sickos so welcome to the club of those of us who have been through the same things.

    • I think it may be time to start a petition to stop the bullying behavior on CL. I too was a victim today of being flagged 9 times for a nice LCD TV I was selling for a very reasonable price as we are moving soon. Within minutes, the ad was flagged. I did this post/flag dance all morning long until turning to the forums. That was the biggest mistake EVER. The guys just started attacking me and calling me a stupid bastard, mentally retarded, a useless piece of ****, etc. I can’t believe it. I’m an educated professional and having to endure this abuse was sickening. I did the right thing and replied respectfully (yet firmly) to each poster and even gave them more information so they could make a more informed decision on who was at fault. This of course backfired and the abuse got much worse. It’s no wonder teenagers commit suicide based on what the internet “trolls” do and say. It’s purely evil and I’m very disturbed by this behavior and it must stop. I’m glad there are people like you guys to tell your stories as well. Thanks.

      • grandnegus1 says:

        The stories are legion Brian. While there probably are some half way decent aspects to CL IMO they are few and fa between and getting worse all the time. For some reason this particular publication attracts all the low life scum of the earth and it is getting worse. CL doesn’t care. They leave those people alone but try and put in an honest post or ad and your flagged. Don’t ever get on those forums. as those people are the worst of the worst. People that lead horrid lives with no positive meaning. CL seems to attract them.

      • Cj Schepers says:

        I was disturbed by the Forum comments, too. It was a little twilight-zonish. I think there’s an interesting “media” story here. What’s going on w/ CL? How are these “flagging” decisions made? Who’s behind the instant-abuse on their Forum? And if they aren’t behind it themselves, then WHY are they allowing it to continue?

      • 1guilty says:

        YES,where do i sign?Wow,what a trip turning to the cl forums for an answer is.6 or 8 people replied ,one of which was civil and helpful .The rest were like prosecutors with me the guilty.How odd!

      • grandnegus1 says:

        @1guilty,
        We are all experiencing the same thing. If you are a regular poster to CL you should get the program by the HowToBeatCraigslist people. They have a lot of information and excellent tutorial videos on how to get around a long of issues on CL. If you are just trying to sell an occasional item there is probably nothing you can do at least that I know of. CL is not interested in petitions or having an upstanding site with integrity. They are non-responsive to our plight.

  19. Lary Corsten says:

    Craigslist can be a valuable marketing tool.. but ONLY if you know all the secrets to circumvent malicious flaggers, ghosted listings;

    …and are skilled enough to know which replies are real and which are sent by either:
    1) craigslist staff (“is the item available?” is ALWAYS an automated craigslist response to make people think they are getting responses especially when they are getting zero responses – these replies are automated and FAKE!), or
    2) scammers (“greetings sir/madam, please send the following details so i can send you a fake check that is for an amount greater than the sale and you give me real money and lose it: your name, address, birthday, ssn, bank account info, your passwords to every web account, your driving records, the name of your dog and any other security questions” [[ok i exaggerated the amount of info they ask for you.]] “oh yeah, and also i’m a nigerian prince and please ship the item to 123 street, nigeria and i will mail you a certified cheque”… you get the point.)

    Once you get by all this and you do some tricks to circumvent phone registration which I won’t even post here else craigslist would ensure it didn’t work, well after all that, then craigslist can be a valuable method for advertising and selling items.

    You see, with craigslist, you don’t pay money (most of the time). You pay TIME. THe time to learn how not to get scammed, and the time to circumvent all the BULLSHIT craigslist puts you through.

    Oh yea, and don’t even THINK about getting “support”!! The VERY LAST THING you EVER want to do, if you need help, is to go on the forums!! Because those MORONS there will NOT help you but they will insist you did something wrong and then ridicule YOU for being the moron who can’t post a listing correctly, even though your listing follows all the rules. PLUS THEY HAVE THE FREEDOM TO BAN YOUR IP< EMAIL< PHONE NUMBER, AND EVERYTHING, AND IF YOU INSIST THAT YOUR LISTING IS FINE AND INSIST YOU NEED HELP, THEY WILL USE THIS FREEDOM TO BAN YOU FOR "WASTING THEIR TIME".

    I say that in caps as a warning because of the countless number of people who have come to me telling me this very same situation.

  20. I agree about the flagging. Craigslist is a bunch of crooks. I posted an add and every time it got flagged but the other guy who had the same add was able to post and spam. Yes I posted in the local area and when I went to the forum the negativity about my post and non help from the so called staff made it impossible to speak with a moderate tone. I simply asked them why was it that my posts kept getting removed and flagged when the other guy who has the exact same posting was able to keep on posting and clearly violated rules by spamming before the 48hr mark? I posted every 48hrs got flagged every time and this guy was posting every day sometimes 2 times a day and is never flagged, which really made me think it was him doing the flagging. Do not go to the community for help they are pc superheros behind the desk and will ridicule you and your questions. Would like to have put my fist threw a few of their heads. I had been a Craigslist frequent user but never will I ever use that cheat of a site ever again. Word to the wise Craigslist you burn enough loyal customers you will loose because everyday there is another site that opens that will take your place and I will be in the front of the line. SCREW YOU CRAIGSLIST.

    • db4tim says:

      The reason you got flagged is because you did not have the mods in you pocket, they get a cut of what ever is flagged and reduced in price….the guy that was not getting flagged …made a deal with some of them, you do not need to cut them all in only a few.

      Watch how fast this dirty secret gets flagged by …well guess who

    • I agree, I am so waiting and looking forward to the day that CL is a thing of the past. It’s going to happen, I just know it is. The creators, staff of CL cater to all the pervs and thieves and make it possible for them to successfully do their thing hassle free.

      • To: Bev Delvecchio

        You are so wrong to site all users as pervs and thieves! There are many testimonial bloggers here in this forum attesting to being flagged, ghosted and harassed and blatantly hacked by the creators, staff of Cl who are honest, good TOS abiding users of CL’s site.

        Get your facts before you post, it would not make you look such the judgmental person who hassles others. Speaking of hassle free why not just get rid of CL yourself if you know a thing word go about how to and that would then have you worthy of my real attention!

        Bobbie

  21. Very positive things to say about CL; they have saved my life in this job market and bringing me decent clients. I have spent $$$$$$$$$$$ on websites and made $0.

    Enough said, thanks CL for helping the community.

    • I know CL can be extremely frustrating. I have to camp out on my computer to grab a good deal before it’s gone. I have fallen on tough times. I’m unemployed and a single mother. I had no choice but to furnish my home with free items from CL. I was able to get a nice kitchen table. I have also wanted a red couch for years. I finally found one for 85.00! It is so perfect. To the sellers, Not every response with “Is it available” is a scam. I often say that because I get so disappointed when I other people snatch free items up only to resell them minutes later at their “vintage” shop for several hundred dollars. If I could afford some of the prices people ask for on there, I would go to a furniture store! So when you are a dealer and are consumed with making a huge profit, don’t whine about people that flag. The idea some have is to flag the person selling items for a good price, then be rid of your competition, then over price your items. I see people that clearly put on their ad for free items “only for those who need it”. I explain my situation and never get a response back. I once made the mistake of buying a car from CL. It broke down in a month. I tracked down the original owner and was told that I was ripped off. She had sold the car to a man for 400.00, then he in turn sold it to me for 1000.00. If I had only remembered. People on CL seem to worse when it comes to greed. Gordon Gecko would be so proud. I do get on there to obtain household items. Any items I can’t use, I donate them to a battered women’s shelter. I think people are just disillusioned by CL. They lack integrity and are essentially predators. I call them bottom feeders. I always love how they get an item free, slap a coat of cheap buck store paint on it and claim it is “shabby chic or vintage”. 5.00 desk…paint at the buck store..1.00..CL ad..200.00. Not exaggerating, I saw this ad yesterday. I got my desk for free! I didn’t flag them, but I did write to them and tell them it wasn’t worth that much!

  22. What about the nationwide glut of scientologists posting ads for “classes” and “events” on craigslist without identifying themselves as scientology? They are using craigslist to troll for victims. And craigslist doesn’t care. To see 360 ads posted in SF alone in the last few days from just one poster, go to craigslist, and search “All SF Bay Area”; “All Community”; and the number: 3944
    UNBELIEVABLE!! This is happening all over the country.

  23. CJ (@iDuder) says:

    My only complaint is it takes forever for my ads to go online. And due to companies posting spam it often makes it more difficult for people to see real local ads.

    What you say about it costing money is only true for people who want to massively spam multiple areas with their postings. This only applies to businesses really.

    • You are correct. Only businesses pay for advertisements at this point, but the pay areas are increasing. Craigslist has seen that the pay model has worked for them, so they are increasing the amount of sections that require pay to play. Will the private users ever have to pay? I don’t know. I don’t think they will because it will probably be used as an upgradable item like most other companies do on the web. Give away a few free sections and allow for upgrades to other sections. This has been proven as a very lucrative business model.

      • I’m very upset as someone who needs to hire household assistants on a regular basis. For years CL has been completely free, then suddenly they add my city to the list that requires paid job listings. It’s hard enough going through the hundreds of responses per week as it is, there’s no way I’m paying $25 per ad to just get what I’ve been getting. CL has definitely lost my business – and unfortunately they probably don’t care.

  24. If I had the money and know how (don’t have either lol) I would make a web site similar to Craigslist and NOT allow people to flag!
    And if there is a site like that already I don’t know about it and I won’t get Facebook in order to list on some classified sites. I am on other classified sites that allow flagging but so far have not had any trouble with any of them other than Craigslist.

    Sure I would have terms of service but unless those terms were violated posts would NOT be removed. I would understand if only posts violating their terms got flagged but it ain’t so. People can not like a post for whatever reason and flag it. I’ve had people drive as far as 100 miles to buy things from me so I have good stuff and all the people are doing that flag is hurting someone from finding something they want to buy.

    I don’t buy into it taking so many people to flag for some posts to be removed because I’ve had posts when clicking on renew (I never renew early and wait for my account to show a post is up for renew) and the second I click renew it got deleted. There is no way anyone would even have time to flag it that quickly.

    People in the flagging forum some of them are rude and only want to find fault. Sure there is some that their posts violate terms and I understand those being flagged and removed but when someone’s ad does not violate the terms some of the people there in that forum really get rude or picky about how they think a post should read, etc. I don’t mind learning how to write a better ad but I do mind having posts removed that don’t violate their terms.

    • Mike Keller says:

      I totally agree … there are pople who flag just because it.s the only way they can feel important … they know nothing about the item, person posting, or anything else…. it is impossible to list rare items on craigslist… like a rare guitar in Nashville … some jackass thinks a guitar can’t be worth 20 grand so they flag the post….. craiglist sucks… and nationwide listing would be a big plus … i’d travel to another state to buy a rare car … or whatever … so why can’t you advertise in another state?

      • Well, I don’t know if your question is rhetorical, but Craigslist doesn’t want people posting outside their local area because that is how Craigslist began. Local people selling locally. Even though they have gone national, they still maintain this philosophy. I don’t agree with it, but I am simply clarifying.

  25. f1here1 says:

    Need help with phone verifying… been trying to verify an ad I placed on CL today. spent 3 hours, and a lot of frustration with no success. at this point im ready to throw the damn thing away. and give my son $100 for it and say I sold it on CL for him. anyway around the verifying? tried calling San fran.. that was a waste as well.

    • grandnegus1 says:

      Forget trying to call them. It’s and effort in futility. They really don’t want to hear from you. The whole Craigs thing has really gotten way out of control. Far far too many nutjobs hiding behind their computer screens who get a jazz off flagging people. I beginning to see there are a lot more sick minded people in this world than I thought.

  26. Ryan Elder says:

    To the people who think CL is a waste or negative, i say you are just finding reasons to dog on a great website that provides FREE postings to consumers. Maybe you had a bad experience for whatever reason, but i have been buying and selling on here for a number of years (about 5-6 years) and NEVER have i had a bad experience. It is a great alternative to ebay if you want to deal locally. I have sold and bought anything from little toys to cars and everything in between. To CL staff, keep up the good work and dont worry about these negative people dogging on you. You know you have something great here and they are just finding reasons to bring you down for their own self preservation. The simplicity of the website is what makes it so great. If everyone remembers Myspace, it was a one hit wonder and extremely difficult to navigate and set up. Facebook went viral with IT’S simplicity and is now the leader of the Social Network. CL has the same which people like. I do agree with the need of fixing the “dealers” overposting of especially cars, but with popularity and technology comes with a price. Just stay ahead of the game and you will learn to weed out these people and once again make it a better place. Thanks CL for everything!!!

    • cowboytech says:

      I too have worked with CL, and until today have not had any problems. However, I went to the forum for help when my ad was flagged. As it turns out, I understand why (somewhat nit picky, but okay). However, I’ve been called names, harassed, cussed at, and tormented all day by people who have checked out the forums. I’ve offered apologies and more, but the harassing emails have not stopped since 8:00 AM- and it’s now 7:00 PM! People I never even spoke to are sending me harassing emails from the forum links, and CL is impossible to get in touch with. They will do nothing about it, and they don’t realize I have a good income and some legal knowledge. If I can get a lawyer on my side, I’m filing a law suit for them allowing this ongoing harassment. They deserve to be shut down completely!

      • The forum is really full of crazies. I have heard your situation repeated many times. I’m sorry for the trouble that you are experiencing and I agree that it is very unprofessional to allow that to continue. I wish you the best on whatever course you follow.

      • grandnegus1 says:

        I too have the same exact experience. One person kept sending me filthy emails cussing me out. Ads constantly get flagged even when they have been accepted for a long time and then after I renewed them the ad was flagged. Nothing at all makes sense on this site. Some within seconds of posting. There are a lot of sick pathetic people on this site who have lonely pathetic lives and sit behind their computers in the dark litle corners of their rooms just to make people miserable. If only I could get my hands on them.

      • db4tim says:

        Yes they will do something about it…they keep flagging you and all others, the only thing they could do is get rid of the moderators they have, they are egotistical self centered individuals with a power complex,,,they feel like they rule the world,….their tiny one as much as it is.

        Actually they have some serious mental issues that many in the sociological filed have studied, they give them so much material it is a proverbial gold mind.

    • db4tim says:

      We need NO reason To DOG you..CL gives a thousand reason across the world Everyday……finally the wheels of justice are taking a hold….one must always wait for karma to come around

    • db4tim says:

      Dog a great website…..well you really have some issues, looks like you drank the cool-ade, or maybe like all who come on here to push CL, you are part of the problem

    • It is just a matter of time that your great success with CL will turn into the same bad experience that we are all talking about. I had great success with CL too, when I first started using it and had many good things to say, but now, nothing but BS with all this flagging going on towards people who are not breaking any of the CL rules. I suspect that you will start getting hit with all the BS too once the many people such as myself start closing out their CL accounts.

  27. zutu says:

    I’ve been buying and selling using CL for more than a decade and have never had a bad experience. CL provides the community an amazing service that is unparalleled. Unfortunately, there are those who abuse the system but they’re easy to spot and avoid. For all the critiques, perhaps your better off staying away from CL. I am honest with my listings and post in the correct category therefore I never get flagged.

    Craigslist is a privilege, not a right. I hope CL never goes away and is able to stick to its roots.

    I am forever in-debt to CL and will do my best to keep things the way they are.

    Thanks CL! Keep up the good work.

  28. Craigslist really sucks. the bottom feeders on there and the flagging for no reason. Best use oodle.com or ebay. Untill they fix the flagging issue it sucks and i cant recommend it. Its a waste of time.

  29. Adam Evans says:

    The Craig bots are getting stronger ,smarter and straight rude. Time for Craig to step to the side.

  30. befytomyass says:

    whoops …..my bad what they care about is flagging

    • Whether Flagging or Ghosting is your issue, I suggest you visit my main website. At my site I go into much greater detail about how to deal with Ghosting and Flagging. Putting all that aside, what I meant was that you should never give up. I know it’s hard, but good things only come from much effort. If we persist, we can change Craigslist.

      • befytomyass says:

        Link to your site please…….

        and as much as I agree with not giving up, the members are so out numbered by the flagging, trust me…seconds after you get a new add up it is flagged (price wrong) how in the heck is one supposed to keep up or fight when you are out numbered by 20 to 1 or 80/1 people flagging…then use the ridiculous forum only ….berated and told to go find other place to sell …or you don’t get how we work or read the FAQ…you can make perfect add and if they don’t like the price then it is gone ….yes give me the link to your site and show me HOW it makes a difference …you and I talking about it is NOT going to change it…they need to internally change

    • befytomyass says:

      JUST Google Craigslist customer service complaints,..and see how many you get…any intelligent business would look at what its customers say …the only problme they are the only dog on the porch….so they play …..there way only

      Here is a real good one
      http://www.customerservicescoreboard.com/Craigslist

      Craigslist Customer Service
      User Reviews, Ratings and Comments

      Craigslist customer service is ranked #483 out of the 502 companies that have a CustomerServiceScoreboard.com rating with an overall score of 18.31 out of a possible 200 based upon 652 ratings.

      This score rates Craigslist customer service and customer support as Terrible.

      633 Negative Comments out of 652 Total Comments is 97.09%.

      19 Positive Comments out of 652 Total Comments is 2.91%.
      Issue Resolution

      * Negative Comments (633)
      * Positive Comments (19)
      * Employee Comments (0)

      • Haha, I already have a link to that Customer Service rating on my site. I agree it is ridiculous. I also have a link to another website that points to the fact that Craigslist readership has gone down. The problem is that changes are small and incremental. Google for example no longer indexes their ads for search like they used to many years ago. The days of Craigslist are numbered, take it from someone who has been around from the beginning. That is one of the reasons I formed my site. My site is listed on the side roll of all my blogs, but I’ll make it easy for you. Go to http://www.beatcraigslist.com for much more info.

  31. befytomyass says:

    ‘Then I ask YOU how to change it……all they ace about is flagging .

  32. befytomyass says:

    It is sad in so many ways what Cl has become, you have Mods that are power hungry, no clue about pricing just want to say you are wrong.

    No way to correct abusive power of over moderation…they just say” if ya don’t like it move on.”…..long way…..what Cl started out as….

    Any remember can post any price they want…except for being flagged if they the Mods do not agree you are gone.

    Serious abuse of language

    • I agree with you my friend. Craigslist has become an over moderated site run by power hungry individuals. That Peace symbol doesn’t mean much any more. This is why we have to do everything we can to show them that we are like the “Occupy” people. We wont leave, we wont hide, we wont be pushed around, we will win! For everything they do, we can find a solution.

      • grandnegus1 says:

        That so-called peace symbol is what we used to call in the 60s the footprint of the American Chicken. There are sick people on Craigslist. They should completely do away with the forums. A lot of mental idiots on there.

  33. draystock says:

    hi there,
    I am having a big issue with ghosting. I like your pay phone idea, but there are no pay phones around here! Can you email me at *********@gmail.com? I would like to pick your brain on strategies and I am willing to pay a fee in return. Thanks!
    Sue

    • Sorry Sue, I would really like to help you but I must keep this at this level. If I took you up on this, I would be getting hundreds of requests for assistance. I post all my new ideas here or at my home page http://www.beatcraigslist.com and I do it free of charge so everyone can have an even deal when dealing with Craigslist. As far as a pay phone, there must be a pay phone some place nearby. Every liquor store, hospital, garage, shopping center has one.

  34. audreyooh says:

    What’s up with all the flagging that goes on with craigslist these days? The format is obviously not working–good and interesting ads get flagged by angry people. I notice that MSW ads requesting certain body types are allowed to stand but WSM ads requesting true romance without adultery quickly get deleted.

    Why the hating on a preference? And how exactly does flagging work? Do these flagger-jacks sit around waiting to flag in tandem? Sign on to more than one IP addy at a time to get their thrill from deleting advertisers who do not wish to see their cockshots or commit adultery? Why is it okay for men to ask for no fatties but not okay for women to request no skeeves?

    Most importantly, why does craigslist allow this to happen? Any plans to stop the madness? Most people probably do not even realize they’ve been flagged since no message is received, so they just figure the system gets crappy results. And following that, men seeking good old-fashioned romance probably figure there’s not many women here besides bots and hookers. This could be one reason why craigslist personals aren’t used much anymore for true romance, but rather just for married people looking to cheat, hookers, and sex games.

    Too bad.n CL was once the cream of the crop.

    And another thing about the false and abusive community flagging on craigslist–the reason I requested no adulterers or cockshots is because every time I’ve placed an ad or spoken to a friend about their having placed one in the last several years, we all have had the same experience of receiving lots of pics of dicks and married men responses. I can see getting those when posting in the “sexual encounters” areas, but those of us posting in the “dating” section looking for real partners feel accosted when opening a pic only to see some limp dick. Craigslist management neither responds nor seems to care that this happens to women on their site who are looking for real romance.

    I guess it’s time to go with match.com. Too bad.

  35. Who says there hasn’t been any? ;) Telling the truth is never easy!

  36. waterbabyontheeastcoast says:

    Curious how you guys have managed to keep the site up w/o harrassment. I’m doing research on the ‘other side’ of craigslist, and haven’t found much yet.

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